Man of Steel Myths: The Scout Ship Was Destroyed In The Singularity

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   Jonathan

   January 22, 2015 at 12:34 pm

   Suggestion for next video. Man Of Steel Myths: Superman Destroys Buidlings and Kills Civilians.

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     DrAwkward

     January 22, 2015 at 12:51 pm

     There are already several videos in the can to be released first.

     You may have to rethink or reword that suggestion because it’s difficult to dispositively visually prove a negative or the absence of something. In theory, I’d have to show every instance of Superman on screen to prove absolutely that at no time does he do either of those things.

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       Jonathan

       January 22, 2015 at 1:44 pm

       Ok. It’s a criticism that is said just as much as the “saves” criticism. I think you should tackle it though. You should like show us the figt scenes and pause it when there’s destruction to show us that nobody dies. How about calling it Man Of Steel Myths: Climax Death Toll or something a long those lines.

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         DrAwkward

         January 22, 2015 at 2:34 pm

         It’s not really the same thing. To prove a “save” all you have to do is show it. You can’t “show” the absence of something per se (you can imply it, though) and that’s why the burden to prove such allegation is on the critic.

         It’s the critic’s duty to point to or prove a death.

         Indulging such a blanket criticism without the critic even establishing their case is pointless. If they have no grounds to begin with, why do we have to spend hours rebutting it? Obviously, I’m not an answer genie and the stuff takes work, so I’d need something credible to rebut before actually tackling it. I don’t think I’ve ever seen or read a credible criticism that Superman clearly killed an innocent.

         People try to assign blame for the actions or results of others, and that’s addressable, which is why there’s blogs on that.

         However, there’s no real way for anyone to prove– for example- that no one died in the 7-Eleven explosion. At best, you can offer rules for interpretation (like not assuming anything unnecessarily or unseen), but that’s not proof. Not enough to win an argument decisively or change the mind of someone who insists there are unseen innocents inside.

         If you can bring me a specific instance you think can be proven by pausing, the question and answer can be narrowed to that.

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         An accounting of the collateral for just Superman and Zod’s post-singularity fight can be done to a degree and might be worth doing (again, not going to change anyone’s mind if they believe there were people in the parking deck or people hit by falling cladding below; it’s unseen, it’s unknowable and unprovable either way)… however, there’s another point about why such videos are difficult and it’s because the fight sequences and action set-pieces are generally considered “the heart” of blockbuster films and therefore subject to stronger copyright protection.

         For example, a book review might be allowed to publish an excerpt from a mystery novel… however, if they publish the paragraph that gives away the killer, they’re probably going to be in copyright trouble. Here, with edits and defending my matter with WB, I can publish certain parts of the film as commentary, but needing to show complete portions of the fight tends to mean a video that isn’t going to be allowed to stay up. That’s part of why the question needs to be narrowed.

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           Jonathan

           January 22, 2015 at 3:37 pm

           True. Thanks for the reply. I am eagerly awaiting the next video and podcast. Cheers.
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           DrAwkward

           January 22, 2015 at 9:41 pm

           Thanks. I appreciate thinking about ideas still. Just helping you understand the process by which I select what can be tackled. I look forwards to addressing as many questions as I can in the upcoming grab bag episode.