Repost: Why no superhuman society?

Zenation asks, “Why would anyone want to terraform a planet that gives their people god like powers in order to protect them? This just seems counterintuitive.”


Finding the terraforming of Earth odd tends to be based on a few misconceptions. Primary amongst them is the idea that Zod is flexible enough to accept alternatives. Instead, after you’ve thought it through, you may come to see that Zod was a man of conviction willing to die for a specific vision of Krypton and rather Krypton go extinct than see an alternative.

Let me run you through some things to think about to get there.

  • Zod had 33 years and a ship full of Kryptonians of both sexes and a brilliant geneticist aboard. If he was willing to accept a different vision of Krypton, could he not have procreated or began cloning?
  • Zod’s part of the warrior caste and thus his toolbox is limited. Up to the last minute, Jor-El was petitioning the Council, suggesting that Krypton’s foremost scientist and most brilliant mind considered that a viable tactic worthy of his time… but Zod didn’t petition the Council. Instead, Zod betrayed the ones he had a duty to serve and follow, based on a vision of eugenic perfection he was willing to risk treason for.
  • When Zod tells Superman that, “If you destroy this ship you destroy Krypton!” That’s not factually accurate. Kal-El was specifically sent to Earth to bridge two people and co-exist. Destruction of the Scout Ship would only remove the Genesis Chamber and Zod’s ability to continue the Ghost of Eugenic Krypton, rather than Jor-El’s Best of Both Worlds Krypton, which Jor-El pleads with Zod to accept before Zod deletes him. So again, Zod’s concept of Krypton is narrow. It doesn’t include co-existence, it doesn’t include natural birth, it doesn’t include anyone controlling the eugenics but him… and thus it is fairly intuitive that it shouldn’t include a super-human society that he cannot fully control.

Admittedly, the last part is speculation, but it is backed by strong circumstantial evidence. However, let’s go over what the fear is first. The fear is that after you give all the Kryptonians on the Black Zero god-like super powers, you’ve suddenly democratized New Krypton… and despite Zod’s narrow vision of him controlling the bloodlines, Zod fears that some- like say, Jax-Ur of the science guild, not loyal to the warrior caste- might not be willing to forfeit that god-like power out of pure loyalty to Zod’s plan. Zod was himself a betrayer to the Council. Is it any wonder he suspects or fears betrayal? Now the evidence to consider:

  • Note that the Black Zero wasn’t designed for Zod. Jor-El said he designed it. Jor-El died in Zod’s coup attempt. Therefore, Jor-El designed the prison ship for prisoners other than Zod. Jor-El says that they’ve exhausted their resources so the Black Zero wasn’t built for fun… it was built to house pre-existing prisoners during a time of unrest. That means that it is highly likely that not all the prisoners were revolutionaries. They were not all part of Zod’s coup who can be trusted absolutely. After 33 years, Zod certainly has them in-line… however, not so in-line that Zod can trust everyone to be on Earth. Indeed, while Zod is on an away mission, during Lois’s escape, we see no less than five different armed guards. If your prisoners (Kal and Lois) are depowered and secured, why do you need armed security guards on a 100% loyal ship when they could be a dramatic force multiplier on Earth? Simply put, you don’t… the guards are Zod’s continued show-of-force, military might and loyalty aboard the ship to maintain his 33 year long rule. With a New Krypton and everyone depowered, that rule would continue so long as Zod lived.
  • Note too that Zod leads from the front in a classic loyalty pyramid. Zod may be able to defeat Faora 1 v 1 and command her loyalty. Zod and Faora may be able to defeat Nam-Ek 2 v 1 and command his loyalty, thus he fields Nam-Ek. The three of them can defeat any three other Kryptonians and thus risk of mutiny or rebellion is low so long as Zod never fields more than 6 Kryptonians on Earth at a time… and that is exactly what we see. Even with Zod himself is forced to withdraw, he allows only Faora and Nam-Ek to remain, even if he could command or field more Kryptonians… precisely because he wants to limit the number of Kryptonians with access to these powers to the few he can trust absolutely.

tl;dr: Zod did not want to risk democratizing New Krypton, he would rather it go extinct than compromise his vision, which is why there was no natural birth on the Black Zero for 33 years.


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Repost: How was Zod powered in Smallville?

The Man Of Steel Answer Insight Commentary (MOSAIC) Podcast Episode 6 covers this topic in more depth.

MOS Kryptonian super powers are powered entirely by Earth’s Sun (this includes sensory abilities). That is the only mandate on having their powers. Thus their powers can persist in a vacuum, underwater, in an oil rig fire (which isn’t normal Earth atmosphere), or in all the environments in between Earth and space.

Jor-El describes this using the metaphor of “drinking” and like water, you aren’t only hydrated while you are drinking the water. You can also store the drink in your body to keep you hydrated while not drinking. This means Superman can exhibit powers even when not in direct sunlight.

Thus, a more apt metaphor is of a laptop with a removable battery and a power plug. The laptop will run on either battery, or plug, or both… but not neither.

The Kryptonian Atmosphere acts to unplug (but not drain!) the battery. Additionally, space ships are shielded against radiation. Therefore, being exposed to Kryptonian Atmosphere disconnected his battery and being on the Black Zero unplugged his power cord. So Superman lost his strength. After the Kryptonian Atmosphere was replaced (either by Earth Atmospherics OR vacuum), Superman’s battery was reconnected and thus his strength immediately returned. He was NOT empowered by Earth’s Atmosphere (otherwise vacuum would have weakened him). As for what Zod and company were breathing on Earth, we can’t be certain, but even if they were breathing Kryptonian Atmosphere, they would still have power in the form of direct sunlight or a power cord (irrespective of a disconnected battery).

This theory is fully consistent with the entire film and the Podcast reconciles every instance (including the helmets and sensory “weakness”; and Superman briefly losing flight while fighting the World Engine) except one panel of the Prequel comic (but also explains why that example can be excluded).


As for why, mechanically, Kryptonian Atmosphere weakens Superman, it’s a combination of two general factors: 1) He has organs that work; 2) It’s a biochemical reaction.

We know Superman tends to follow biological rules for a number of reasons, not the least of all is how Zod is stopped. Additionally, even with all his powers, it is likely that Clark still biochemically reacts with the world: he drinks beer while watching football, implying that it is reacting with his body so that he can taste it. It is unlikely that Kryptonian Atmosphere is radiological simply because of how much was spewed into the air and Lois’s exposure to it.

Therefore, it is possible that in breathing in the Kryptonian atmosphere, it reacts biochemically with his lungs and interferes with the organ or process that allows him to metabolize and access his stores of solar energy. Just as sour may cause you to involuntarily pucker, bitter to gag, spicy to pant, Superman’s reaction to “tasting” Kryptonian air was temporary weakness.

Under this theory, if Superman had held his breath the entire time he was on the Black Zero, he would have been fine… but he also wouldn’t have been able to speak and he would have had no reason to think to do so. Additionally, it’s likely he would have eventually adapted. He did, nominally, in the sense that he didn’t remain passed out and coughing, but merely powerless.

These are gone into more depth in Episode 7.


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12 – Oil Rig Virtues – Heroism

coverblackIn this episode, we unpack the virtues of the oil rig scene and the virtues exhibited by Clark in that scene; we listen to Zack Snyder talk about the making of the scene and Henry Cavill talk about some of the stunt work with Jay Leno a week before the film’s premiere; and we discuss what makes a hero. We touch on the topics below:

  • Why do I say “reasonable minds will differ” every episode?
  • What virtues did Clark show in this short scene?
  • What is the significance of calling him “Greehorn” three times?
  • How do the filmmakers show us Clark’s limitations here?
  • Why is a Superman with limits a good thing for storytelling?
  • When does Clark show optimism, hope, humility, and possibly humor?
  • Why did they have Clark yell when propping up the derrick?
  • Why didn’t Clark use super speed to rescue the workers?
  • What did Clark’s heroism cost him?
  • What is the definition of heroism?
  • What’s the difference between classical, literary, and modern heroism?
  • How to answer the criticism that Superman is not a “real” hero because he’s strong and invulnerable?
  • Do you have to be a paragon to be a hero?
  • Why does this scene come before the flashbacks?

In this episode’s mail bag:

  • What does ordering Scotch “straight up” get you?
  • How did Clark get his job at the Daily Planet?
  • How did Lois survive being left in the Arctic?
  • How did Clark find the ship under the ice?

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Superman in Six

Happy New Year!  I hope you had as wonderful a holiday as I did.  With the time off without briefs to write or court to prepare for, I finally was able to catch up on a lot of Superman media and enjoy some of the Superman-related gifts I was given.  They ended up being a great sampling of Superman through several ages, mediums, and perspectives.  I was able to enjoy:

  • Superman: The Sunday Classics (1939-1942, 190 pages) – Anthology of full-color newspaper strips
  • It’s a Bird… It’s a Plane… It’s Superman (1966, 50 minutes) – Broadway Musical Album
  • Superman: Comic Strip Hero (1981, 50 minutes) – BBC documentary in anticipation of Superman II
  • American Icon: Superman (2006, 50 minutes) – Public Radio following Superman Returns
  • Adventures of Superman (2013-2014, 51 issues) – Digital First Series out-of-continuity stories
  • Superman: Doomed (2014, 544 pages) – Recent New 52 story arc

Brief impressions or comments on each:

Superman: The Sunday Classics (1939-1942, 190 pages)

Of a different era, there certainly is a different style and elements that would be questioned for their political correctness today, but even the early strips contained many of the trappings we associate with Superman to this day, with the conspicuous absence of the power of flight (although the influence of the Fleischer cartoons might be seen in the later strips).  Superman has super breath, x-ray vision, telescopic vision, super hearing, and can render people unconscious with a nerve pinch.  He’s happy to help without thanks, but not afraid to threaten to extort information (or even a bank loan so a logger can make payroll).  Superman wants to be a journalist in order to be aware of trouble even in the first strip.  Although he’s repeatedly called the Man of Steel and the Man of Tomorrow, he’s actually successfully knocked out by narcotic gas in one story.  It’s easy to see why these could have been captured the imaginations of so many in its time.

It’s a Bird… It’s a Plane… It’s Superman (1966, 50 minutes)

Not the best musical, but with with a few great numbers.  “You’ve Got Possibilities” is clever, catchy, and the anthem to my love life.  “Doing Good” and “We Need Him” are satirical insights into the public perception of Superman in the 60s while Adam West’s Batman was a television sensation.  The other numbers don’t do much for me, but they’re interesting to hear.

Superman: Comic Strip Hero (1981, 50 minutes)

The documentary aired after Superman II had debuted in the States but before the UK premier.  Cheeky and subversive (as you might expect from a British documentary about the American superhero) it doesn’t exactly celebrate Superman but it doesn’t dismiss him either.  You get to hear from Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster, DC’s Editor-in-Chief at the time, and many diehard Superman fans.  However, you also hear directly from Fredric Whertham, Art Spiegleman, Larry Niven, and other dissenters who take issue with Superman… either specifically or symbolically as representative of the entire superhero comic genre.  The cynicism makes it apparent why in only a few years, Watchmen would thoroughly deconstruct the genre, The Dark Knight Returns would take hold, and Superman would be re-imagined and relaunched in Man of Steel all in 1986.

American Icon: Superman (2006, 50 minutes)

A full on analysis and deconstruction of Superman, you can read my thoughts on this here.  Briefly though, completely worth a listen!

Adventures of Superman (2013-2014, 51 issues)

I enjoyed this anthology for the clever ideas, intriguing twists, the sentimentality, and the tradition when unshackled by continuity.  It lacks a certain degree of depth of character capable of being perpetuated but I’m so happy this exists for the flavor.  I’ve been buying these digitally as they came out but never had a chance to read them all.  I hope they get released in a single physical volume.  I know that’s not their intended format, but it was a pleasure to read the Sunday Classics mentioned above and you may recall the epic Wednesday Comics (2010) in newspaper page aspect ratio and size.

Superman: Doomed (2014, 544 pages)

Overall, quite a serviceable story.  Not likely to be anyone’s favorite of all time but solid.  I don’t need my every Superman experience to be life-changing and sometimes it’s nice just to have a story to read.  The weakest tie-ins were the Supergirl crossovers in my opinion, but everything else seemed like it mattered enough to justify the crossover.