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79 – Timeline

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[Recorded April 23, 2021] When does Zack Snyder’s Justice League take place? How long after Batman v. Superman and does that make sense? Looking to inhabit the worlds we love.

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Answers, insights, and commentary on:

  • Intro (00:00:58)
    • How Fans Approach Story (00:03:20)
    • When does BvS take place? (00:09:40)
  • Timeline
    • When does JL take place? (00:12:15)
    • Post-Prologue scenes (00:19:00)
    • Sunday (00:20:30)
    • Monday (00:22:22)
    • Seam 1 (00:24:50)
    • “Tuesday” (00:25:10)
    • Seam 2 (00:27:20)
    • Wednesday (00:28:00)
    • Thursday (00:31:10)
    • Friday (00:33:40)
    • Time Gap (00:34:25)
    • Boom ’round the world (00:36:30)
    • Saturday (00:36:55)
  • Issues
    • Moon (00:37:30) Comparison
    • Intentional? (00:40:20)
    • Other Factors (00:43:10)
    • Lois’s Furlough (00:45:10)
    • Suicide Squad (00:48:55) Ayer Tweet 1 2
    • Bruce’s Beard & Belle Reve with Lex (00:51:05)
    • Kent Farm Foreclosure (00:52:30)
    • Kansas Corn (00:54:00)
    • Butterfly (00:56:55)
    • Silas’s 2017 Headstone (00:58:55)
    • Canonicity of Prop Text (00:59:45) M&J LL Article DOB typo
  • Love
    • Black Zero Event (01:06:20) Wayne Tower Devastated via Fiona Zheng
    • Loving Suspension of Disbelief (01:10:50)
    • Pick Your Poison (01:13:00)
      • 2017 Headstone, Moon, Pregnancy
  • Making the Call (01:18:10)
  • End Notes [Intro Recorded April 28, 2021] (01:21:05)
    • King Tides and the Moon
    • Cyborg’s Flying Flashback
    • Diana Storyteller

To learn more:

Zack on Scener: “We had the funeral in BvS. It’s probably only a month or so passed.”
6 weeks claim by Uche Nwaneri
Zack Snyder’s Justice League | The Rough Cut
Why Look At The Moon | Victoria Williams
A Place In Time | Amanda Abizaid
Bad Moon Rising | It Aude Kolonyhûs

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78 – Zack Snyder’s Justice League

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[Originally Recorded March 28, Re-Recorded April 12, 2021] Approaching Zack Snyder’s Justice League in good faith.  How did Darkseid forget the location of Earth?  Why didn’t Steppenwolf tie the Mother Box to the Defiance immediately?  So many questions!

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Answers, insights, and commentary on:

  • Impressions (00:00:58)
  • Comparison (00:02:30)
  • Gratitude (00:06:20)
  • Growth (00:08:50)
  • Logic (00:10:20)
  • Layers – Black Suit Example (00:11:50)
  • Past Nitpicking Plot Holes (00:14:00)
  • Death of the Author (00:16:00)
  • Q: Did Diana lie to a little girl? (00:24:30)
  • Q: Diana says the Boxes are indestructible but they’re destroyed? (00:26:15)
  • Q: Why did the Boxes die? (00:27:40)
  • Q: Do we know the Boxes are destroyed? (00:29:05)
  • Q: Why didn’t the Box reach Darkseid directly? (00:32:30)
  • Q: Why did about a month pass before Steppenwolf arrived? (00:34:30)
  • Q: Why did Amazonian Box stay awake? (00:38:20)
  • DeSaad & Darkseid’s Last Lines Analysis (00:41:20)
  • Not Omniscient (00:42:20)
  • Lies & Hiding (00:43:40)
  • Honor Culture (00:45:00)
  • Armada Alternatives (00:48:30)
    • No reaction, Let Steppenwolf Die, Boxes at Defiance, DeSaad asks
  • Ways Old & New (00:53:40)
  • Q: Are there more Mother Boxes? (00:58:30)
  • Q: How did Steppenwolf conquer before? (01:05:30)
  • Q: How did Darkseid forget Earth? (01:09:25)
  • Timeline (01:10:20)
  • Q: Doesn’t Diana contradict this? (01:25:35)
    • Hearsay, Myth, Rashōmon
  • End Notes / After Show [Recorded April 15, 2021] (01:36:00)
    • Q&A Summary

To learn more:
Zack Snyder’s Justice League – “We Live in a Society” Extended Deleted Scene
overthinking – original song | Orla Gartland

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Debunking “Differences”

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“I Told You So!”

Hindsight is 20/20, I thought it’d be funny to look back at a “leak” claiming to describe the Snyder Cut from November 18, 2017.

With the release and reception of Zack Snyder’s Justice League there is much cause for celebration, gratitude, and congratulations. There’s also a baser instinct to go after those who didn’t believe along the way; An incredible temptation to unleash a torrent of “I told you so!” For my part, I’ve recommend amnesty because they can only add to our support. If there’s a message in the movie, the movement, and the marketing, it’s “Us United.”

And yet, I still have to say, “I told you so” not to detractors, but to adherents who had bought into a rumor spread wide around the web during the early days of the Snyder Cut; before it had become a hashtag! In December 1, 2017, I published the provocatively titled Don’t Be As Gullible As Kevin Smith. The contents actually praise Smith’s support of DC and only mildly chastise him for multiplying the reach of a rumor, the contents of which were where my grievance actually was. Dubbed “Differences”, it was supposedly a bulleted list of 21 differences between the theatrical Justice League and Snyder’s unseen film; posted anonymously to Reddit by an alleged insider.

To me, it was immediately obviously a fake, filled with contradictions and lacking the ring of truth… but it spread to mainstream pop-culture sites and two-weeks later Kevin Smith was reading from the list on his podcast reaching hundreds of thousands of viewers. The post was imploring people to ask for the real thing, not this fabrication. Thank goodness the movement was bigger than this and never adopted it as true (though there continued to be those here and there that would insist upon its truth) and so the integrity of what we were asking for was preserved.

With the release of Zack Snyder’s Justice League and the surrounding promotional interviews, it’s clear what the film is, what it was, and what it was not during the grueling 7-month process to finish the film for release, $70M and 2656 visual-effects-shots later. This is a reminder to be humble in what we think we know, before we attack and ask for heads to roll.

Again, thank goodness this didn’t develop real traction otherwise it would have given executives every excuse to say, “Look, the fans don’t want the Snyder Cut, they want this thing… and this proves they don’t know what they’re talking about because this thing isn’t the Snyder Cut!”; discrediting the cut and the fans. But perfection is the enemy of good and fortunately we had the benefit of Smith’s support which extended to the premiere of Zack Snyder’s Justice League.

“Snyder’s vision asks us to examine our contributions to the stories we engage with . . . Stand. Fight. Discover. Heal. Love. Win.”

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77 – Zack Snyder’s Justice League Official Trailer

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coverblack[Recorded February 14, 2021]  Commenting on Zack Snyder’s Justice League Official Trailer.

Note: Clips from LightCast, I Minutemen, and SnyderCutBR were added after the episode was recorded and thus without introduction. Thank you for your understanding and listen to the full interviews in the links below.

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Answers, insights, and commentary on:

  • Experience (00:01:10)
  • Effectiveness of trailer (00:04:35)
  • Arguments for ZSJL (00:05:20)
    • Leaning into Lore (00:05:30)
    • Average Watch Time (00:07:00)
    • As An Event (00:08:00)
    • Community & Charity (00:12:00)
  • Trailer breakdown (00:14:05)
    • Lisa Gerrard’s “Celon” (00:15:00)
    • Death of Superman (00:16:00)
    • World Building (00:16:30)
    • Lex’s Lines (00:17:30)
    • Layered (00:18:00)
    • Trinity Themes (00:20:00)
    • Attack Coming (00:22:00)
    • VFX Thanks (00:23:00)
    • Steppenwolf Humanity (00:24:40)
    • Heroes Reply (00:25:00)
    • Superman’s Cycle (00:26:00)
    • Misc. (00:29:00)
    • Joker Stinger (00:30:00)
    • Joker’s Lines (00:35:00)
  • Your Reason (00:37:00)
  • Sign Off (00:40:00)
  • End Notes (00:41:00)
    • Bulls & Red Capes (00:42:00)
    • Batman’s Theatricality (00:43:00)
    • Superman’s Visible Deathcry (00:44:00)
      • Science
      • Super Power
      • Special Effect
        • Source Music v. Score
      • Symbol (00:49:00)
    • SciFi in JL & MOS (00:54:00)
    • Black Suit & Resurrection Powers (00:59:00)
    • Jonathan’s Hope (01:03:00)
  • And much more

To learn more:
LightCast #145 – Deborah Snyder
I Minutemen #1 – Zack Snyder
SnyderCutBR – Zack Snyder

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76 – A Christmas Carol

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coverblack[Recorded December 19, 2020]  Merry Christmas! Some parallels between A Christmas Carol by Charles Dickens and Batman v. Superman.

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  • Common points of style
  • Common character developments
  • Common themes
  • And much more

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5 Act Revenge Tragedy | pulpklatura

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Happy Holidays, Merry Christmas, and a Happy New Year!

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75 – Hallelujah

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coverblack[Recorded August 24, 2020]  Finding the soul of Zack Snyder’s Justice League Official Teaser (from DCFanDome) with Leonard Cohen’s Hallelujah.

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Answers, insights, and commentary on:

  • Survivorship Bias
  • Hallelujah etymology
  • Hallelujah the lyrics
  • Hallelujah the song
  • Hallelujah the story
  • Theme of Connection
  • Theme of Mythology
  • Teaser Structure
    • Forward Momentum
    • Increasing Intensity
    • Storytelling Progression
    • Hallelujah Parallels
  • Amnesty for Converts
  • “Help me find the others like you”
  • And much more

To learn more:
The Holy or The Broken | Alan Light
Survivorship Bias | Veritasium
Zack Snyder Interview | Reel-In-Motion
Mistakenly Seeking Solitude | The Happiness Lab
Hallelujah | Revisionist History
Leonard Cohen’s Hallelujah 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

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“They’ve never faced us before.  Not us united.”

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74 – Grail Quest

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coverblack[Recorded May 16 & 26, 2020]  Decoding MOS and BvS with the story of the Grail. Parallels between the first grail knight, Percival, and the first superhero, Superman.

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Answers, insights, and commentary on:

  • Previously with Percival (00:01:05)
  • The Forest Adventure (00:04:00)
      • New Path Personally Chosen
      • Individualism Impacts Civilization
    • Individualism Not Anarchy (00:07:10)
    • Where It Was Darkest (00:09:30)
      • The Revolution Will Not Be Televised
      • Good Does Not Mean Harmless
  • Percival Done With God (00:14:25)
    • Desert of the Soul
    • Crisis of Faith
    • Herders and Pilgrims
  • The Hermit (00:20:00)
    • Uncle As Father Figure (00:21:23)
    • Solitude and The Hermit Within (00:24:00)
      • Solitude as Path Back to Others (00:26:45)
    • The Just World Problem (00:28:22)
      • Suffering Is A Part Of Life
      • Choose The Focus Of Your Attention
      • Is This Helpful?
      • You Have To Try
    • That Which We Already Know (00:35:10)
      • Percival Inspired Hero’s Journey (00:36:30)
      • GI Joe Fallacy (00:40:00)
  • Temptation of Percival (00:41:45)
    • Weapons & Signs (00:46:25)
    • Sight Beyond Sight (00:49:55)
    • Temptation of Superman (00:51:00)
    • Function of Faith (00:52:07)
      • Question of Facts or of Worth
  • Gawain’s Wedding (00:57:01)
    • More Gawain and Batman Parallels
    • Gawain v. Percival (00:59:43)
    • The Pagan Knight v. Percival (01:03:05)
      • Their Fathers Have The Same Name (01:05:00)
  • The Grail Messenger Returns (01:06:16)
    • Things Are Not As They Appear
    • Greening of The Wasteland
    • Servant Kings – Power Can Be Innocent
    • Personal Conviction Not Peer Pressure (01:10:17)
    • Percival’s Conviction & Compassion (01:11:49)
  • Return To The Grail Castle (01:14:06)
    • Heal Another Heal Yourself (01:17:40)
    • Superman’s Next Stage (01:19:03)
  • Grail Quest (01:20:35)
    • Hope To Achieve The Impossible
  • Extras [Recorded June 6] (01:22:05)
    • Ask Questions
      • Beyond Appearance
      • Beyond Literal Analysis
      • Beyond Established Stories
    • The Beginner’s Mind
      • Possibility vs. Obstacles
      • Valuable But Brittle
    • Never Ending Battle
      • Repetition and Experience
      • This Man Is Not My Enemy
    • The Inner Fool
      • The Grail Was Always With You
    • Prester John
      • Art Creating Change
  • And much more

Reference Images:

Via VERO on December 18, 2019

Via VERO on December 4, 2019

To learn more:
The Temptation of Sir Percival | Arthur Hacker
Le Mort D’Arthur | Thomas Mallory (Armstrong)
Owning Your Own Shadow | Robert A. Johnson
Living An Examined Life | James Hollis
Myths to Live By | Joseph Campbell
Eternal Chalice | Monica Potkay
G.I. Joe Fallacy | Laurie Santos
Just World Hypothesis / Fallacy | Myles Dyer
Just World Hypothesis / Fallacy | Thunk
Social Media Empty Calorie Connection | Laurie Santos
The Revolution Will Not Be Televised | Gil Scott-Heron
Man’s Search For Meaning | Viktor Frankl
Attacking Backfires | Melissa Dell
This Video Will Make You Angry | CGP Grey
Mindfulness Tool: RAIN | Life Kit
When Someone Doesn’t Like You | Daryl Davis
Superman Smashes the Klan | Gene Luen Yang
The Science of Well-Being | Yale
Official BvS Watch Party | VERO
Official MOS Watch Party | VERO
Fix You | Coldplay | Hearts & Colors cover
Orpheus | Sara Bareilles

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“The most rewarding mythological experience you can have is to see how it lives in your own psychological structure.”

“You think your pain and your heartbreak are unprecedented in the history of the world, but then you read. It was Dostoevsky and Dickens who taught me that the things that tormented me most were the very things that connected me with all the people who were alive, or who ever had been alive. Only if we face these open wounds in ourselves can we understand them in other people.”

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73 – Grail King

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coverblack[Recorded April 29 & May 6, 2020]  Decoding MOS and BvS with the story of the Grail. Parallels between the first grail knight, Percival, and the first superhero, Superman.

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Answers, insights, and commentary on:

  • Previously with Percival (00:01:20)
  • The Grail King & Grail Castle (00:03:10)
    • Magical Other World
  • The Fisher King Wound Origins & Meaning (00:04:05)
    • The Tasting The Burning Fish – “What was I supposed to do?” (00:04:55)
    • Jousting The Pagan Knight – “Krypton lost something precious” (00:10:25)
    • As Divine Punishment – “I don’t know if it’s possible” (00:13:55)
  • Stages of Evolution (00:15:20)
    • Unconscious youth, conscious middle, enlightened elder
    • The Midlife Crisis (00:19:50)
  • The Wasteland (00:23:55)
    • Inauthentic Lives (00:26:10)
    • Campbell’s Start – From Critic To Champion (00:27:30)
    • In Man of Steel and Batman v. Superman (00:30:20)
      • Fertility, ecology, decline, Knightmare
    • The King and the Knight are One… (00:36:30)
  • The Grail Castle (00:37:40)
    • The Grail Procession – Grail and Lance (00:38:20)
    • Failing to Ask Questions – “A knight does not ask questions” (00:39:30)
    • The Law of Enchantment – Spontaneous Gifts (00:40:50)
    • The Duty to Ask (00:43:00)
  • The Weeping Damsels (00:46:50)
    • The Pain of Consciousness
    • The Costs & Collateral of Past Successes
    • Father’s Unbreakable Sword (00:48:20)
    • The Lady of the Tent (00:50:00)
  • Society vs. Spontaneity (00:51:50)
    • Advice – Right or Wrong? (00:56:10)
    • The Old Knight’s Character (00:57:30)
    • Jonathan’s Character (00:58:40)
    • Advice Context – Stage of Life (00:59:50)
    • Jonathan’s Advice (01:02:40)
    • The Old Knight’s Advice (1:04:10)
      • Authenticity…
      • …without Boundaries is Careless (01:06:50)
      • …without Empathy is Selfish (01:09:00)
      • …without Trust is Risky (01:11:20)
    • Bring Your Best Self (01:12:50)
    • Uncertain Dry Years (01:13:30)
  • Joining The Round Table (01:14:40)
    • Love Trance (01:15:40)
    • The Grail Messenger – Humiliated Before Camelot (01:17:10)
  • Sir Gawain (01:19:10)
    • Percival : Superman :: Gawain : Batman
    • Nature of Foils (01:21:30)
    • Dual Identities (01:24:00)
    • Batman Mythos : Gawain Mythos (01:26:05)
      • The Sun Knight – Batman ’66 : The Light Knight (01:27:40)
      • Descent & Rehabilitation (01:29:10)
    • The Useless Knight (01:32:50)
    • The Trial of the Perilous Bed
  • The Bleeding Lance / Kryptonite Spear (01:35:40)
    • Religious Artifact (01:37:00)
      • Collective Consciousness
      • Remixing Mythology (01:38:50)
      • DC Heroes & World War II (01:42:20)
    • Symbol & Commentary (01:43:55)
      • Kryptonite Spear vs. Bullets
      • Critique of Violence (01:45:50)
  • And much more

To learn more:
Le Mort D’Arthur | Thomas Mallory (Armstrong)
Owning Your Own Shadow | Robert A. Johnson
Living An Examined Life | James Hollis
Myths to Live By | Joseph Campbell
Eternal Chalice | Monica Potkay
Emotions in Medieval Arthurian Literature | Frank Brandsma
King Arthur: History & Legend | Dorsey Armstrong
The Crusades: A History | Jonathan Riley-Smith
Fantastic Creatures | Juliette Wood
Joseph Campbell: A Fire In The Mind | Larsen & Larsen
Carl Jung: Wounded Healer | Claire Dunne
The Waste Land | T.S. Eliot
2001: A Filmmaking Odyssey | Imaginary Worlds
The Science of Well-Being | Yale
Define Your Fears Instead of Goals | Tim Ferris
Authenticity Is A Double-Edged Sword | Adam Grant
Official BvS Watch Party | VERO
Official MOS Watch Party | VERO
$5.27 Launch Fundraiser | AFSP
Limited Time Offer $12/yr | HBO Max
Hurt | Johnny Cash

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“The most rewarding mythological experience you can have is to see how it lives in your own psychological structure.”

“We have not even to risk the adventure alone for the heroes of all times have gone before us. . . . And where we had thought to be alone we shall be with all the world.”